IT Resilience: Why Planning for Failure is The Real Key to Physical & Cyber Resilience

August 20, 2025 •

Emma Lauchlan

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Podcast Details

In the latest episode of In Conversation With, Asanti’s Emma Lauchlan hosts two industry leaders for a deep dive into the meaning of resilience – both physical and digital as they discuss some recent high profile attacks, as well as reviewing the findings from Asanti’s latest whitepaper research on IT resilience.

Joining the conversation are:

Ian Stuart, Director of Technical and Compliance at Livingston, with over 16 years’ experience at NatWest Group safeguarding critical data centre environments.
Brett Rowe, Founder of Securus Communications, a leading UK cyber security consultancy.

Together, they unpack:

Why resilience is about more than redundant systems – it’s about people, training and testing.
How “currency of competency” determines whether teams can truly respond under pressure.
The hidden risks to resilience in supply chains, building management systems and third-party technologies.
Why prevention, not ransom payments, is the only defense against cyber threats.
The future of resilience as AI reshapes both attacks and defenses.

This episode offers a mix engineering expertise with cyber security insight, providing a rare 360° view of risk and resilience. For leaders managing critical systems, it’s a must-listen conversation.

Introducing the Speakers

Emma Lauchlan Marketing Director, Asanti Emma is a marketer with over 20 years experience, working across a range of sectors including Technology and Manufacture. With a background in digital, her experience includes the creation and delivery of customer centric marketing strategies, brand building, team building and coaching.

Ian Stuart Director - Technical & Compliance, Livingston Ian is an accomplished and results-driven Chief Engineer/Engineering director with extensive experience in the critical banking sector. A proven leader in service delivery, operations management, facility management, risk operations, project execution, and compliance with electrical standards. Adept at overseeing complex engineering projects in live and high-risk environments, ensuring seamless business continuity. Holds a Master’s degree in Applied Project Management, with a deep technical and managerial background spanning both contractor and client roles. Playing a key role in the design, construction, and ongoing management of data centres, ensuring both new developments and upgrades met the critical infrastructure needs, ensuring operational excellence, seamless project execution, and strict regulatory compliance. Having overseen global building operations, managing new office acquisitions, data centre builds and integrating services to maintain high performance across all facilities.

Brett Rowe MD, Securus Founder and current MD of an expert Cyber Security practice, Securus. Brett's mission is to educate clients that Cyber Security is a 24/7 operation and constantly evolving target.